Ra Netjer, an ordained buddhist monk I quit my 6-figure Silicon Valley tech job, to mentor Awakening Souls towards Enlightenment. My mission is to uplift the consciousness of the world by helping the millions of bright beings who are awakening to their Divinity.

I struggled through years of Dark Nights of the Soul — battling depression, utter hopelessness and meaningless on his path to Self-Realization.

In this rock bottom, I recognized that this suffering was actually a blessing that helped me see a repeating pattern… A pattern that I then saw with thousands of Spiritual seekers whom I have helped over the years.

This insight was a calling to start my Spiritual Awakening Mentorship program and a loving community to support Awakening Souls through this often difficult journey.

https://awakenwithra.com/ 

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In this enlightening episode of “Deepest Spirituality,” hosts Sunshine and Graham Skidmore delve into the transformative journey of Ra Nature, a spiritual guide hailing from the serene islands of Hawaii. Ra takes us through the profound experiences that shaped his spiritual path, exploring the deep meaning behind his name and his moments of awakening. With a strong focus on practical spirituality, Ra emphasizes the critical role of integrating spiritual practices into everyday life. He passionately speaks about the significance of creating safe spaces that nurture selflessness and freedom from the constraints of societal norms. Furthermore, Ra introduces his vibrant online community and the wealth of resources available on his website, designed to guide individuals on their spiritual quests. Tune in to discover how to cultivate a life imbued with purpose and connection, nourishing both the self and the community.

Sunshine   00:00

Hey everybody, welcome back to deepest spirituality. We are your co host, sunshine, the pink haired psychic medium and

Graham Skidmore  00:07

Graham, self proclaimed, self proclaimed breaker of mold and builder of bridges. Yeah,

Sunshine   00:13

We are super excited to have him back. He was off during the last episode, and I know he was super bummed that he missed it. We’ve got another great guest for you. But before we introduce we’re always going to remind you, if you are catching this for the first time, there are more episodes. This is not the only one. We always have a really amazing guest on with us. Excuse me, that has a topic that goes beyond just the surface level of spirituality. If you couldn’t guest so you can check us out on all the major podcasting platforms, YouTube, you should hopefully know where to find us. There’s more out there. So let me tell you that. Take a note to edit that one. All right, let’s get started with our opening ritual for all of you that can safely do so, I would encourage you to close your eyes, allow yourself to settle in. We’re going to just going to start by taking a deep breath in through your nose and exhaling out through your mouth, and as you do so, I just want you to be here with us, just continuing the deep breaths in and the exhales out, each exhale, just feeling your body relax a little bit more, settle into gravity, feeling where your sit bones, maybe touching the seed to your feet or planted on the ground, continuing those deep breaths in and exhaling out. I want you to imagine at the very top of your head, at your crown chakra, there is the start of a beautiful, bright white beam of light, and that beam of light extends upward from the top of your head, upward all The way through whatever the ceiling is above you, upward even further, sending past any trees, above any clouds, all the way reaching out to the very top atmosphere of the Earth piercing through that and extending further past the moon, all the way past all of the planets in our solar system. I want you to imagine at this point that that white beam of light just continues even further and your view extends even further out, almost as though you have your finger on a mouse button. Just keep scrolling farther and farther. That white beam of light now extends beyond our galaxy, past our neighboring galaxies, all the way until it reaches the very edge of the cosmos, to the point that there is no more and at the end of that white, bright beam of light, I want you to notice a Star, star that is just twinkling brightly. Maybe it’s pulsating or moving wiggling, but that bright white star is a reflection of your higher self. That bright white star, your Higher Self connected all the way the way to where you are back in earth. And as you notice that white star and admire that strong, pulsating connection between you and your higher self, I want you to take notice of another star, a pink star just across from you. That pink star is pulsating and dancing. That pink star is represented in my higher self, and right below it, it extends all the way down to me here on Earth. Now, as you’re noticing my star, how it pulses just the same as yours, you watch as a thin silver thread extends out from the middle of your star and from the middle of mine those threads. Extend towards each other until they connect all the way in the middle. And now your star and my star connected. As you take notice of that connection, you begin to look around and watch as all of these other stars begin to appear and shimmer around you, all the way to the left, all the way to the right, as far up as you can see and as far down as you can see, noticing all these stars, you now realize that from each and every one of those stars extends a silver thread, and those silver threads reach out and connect directly to you, this sea of silver thread Connected stars as representative our entire collective consciousness, all connected, all extending through all space and time. Take another deep breath in and exhale out through your mouth, feeling that truth resonate inside of you, that we are all connected. Now I want you to come back to your star, because we’re going to begin the slow descent back into your body, following from your star, sliding all the way back down, back from the edge of the cosmos, out to the very far this galaxy, passing the rest of the galaxies, until you come into the Milky Way, reaching through The Milky Way until you reach our solar system, that white beam of light continues past all of our planets, past our moon, piercing through the upper atmosphere of the Earth, passing through all of The clouds, trees, the roof above you, finally back down to your crown chakra on the top of your head, taking another deep breath in and exhaling out through your mouth. We’re going to count back from three to one, and when I reach one, you’ll be right back here with us. I’m going to start with three. Encourage you to open your eyes, to put a nice big, gigantic smile on your face. You’re here. We are back. Number one, excited so much to introduce today’s guest. As I mentioned to to both of them before we started. This is the last episode of the season. So Ra, we are excited to have you here with us. I am not going to try to pronounce your last name. So Rob, can you share with me what your full name is? I should have asked that beforehand,

Ra Net jer  08:12

Ra Net Jer

Sunshine   08:14

Nat jer is that intentional that it’s pronounced like nature?

Ra Net jer  08:19

Yeah. It sounds like wrong nature. Right

Sunshine   08:24

Certainly does. Well, super excited to have you here with us today. Ra, I know you are joining us from Hawaii today, and so I hope that your weather is incredibly beautiful, because here in the state of Michigan, we’re at like 90 something and real human so

Ra Net jer  08:39

It’s Aloha all year round. 

Sunshine   08:42

I know Hawaii is beautiful. Well, welcome to the show. We’re excited to have you as we start with every single one of these episodes, I’m curious. Ra, what? What attracted you, what brought you into the path of this deepest spirituality podcast here today.

Ra Net jer  09:03

Life brings us to meet with people in so many mysterious ways. It’s magical. I don’t remember the physical manifestation of how this happened, but it’s actually the stars that connected us more importantly, you know, we, we tend to, in this human life, get more attached to how it happened in a physical way. But I see, I was seeing so much symbology as we were discussing, right, how perfect the the meeting of us three is I, as Graham came in, I saw on his background what looked like the full moon. And then you you are sunshine. And my name, Ra means um. The sun this, this is the, the name that my teacher gave me. So I was like, this moment is so divinely, perfectly ordained in such a way it came together. So that’s, that’s what I focus more on. I don’t remember. How did we come in contact. Oh,

Sunshine   10:21

Yeah, sorry,

Graham Skidmore  10:22

Real, Can you back up the bus? Because you a lot of people. Oh, this is like this, but you, this is the name my teacher gave me. So that seems like there’s a little, there’s a little story there between, like, Hey, this is like what I was called for a lot of my life, but now this is what I’m called, bridge that gap for us, for me real quick.

Ra Net jer  10:42

Yes. So this was unexpected for me, on a time of power, a summer solstice, when where we were in a place of power, a desert in the south of California, my teacher blessed me with this name, and during this unexpected blessing of this name, when he pronounced this name To me, Ra nature, it opened up so many past life memories, wisdoms and powers, because my teacher saw and he was very aware of my past lives in Egypt, where I was in The Mystery Schools and did a lot of these, this spiritual work. And I had seen that since my childhood, I used to dream very real feeling dreams that I was in Egypt, I was with the pyramids, I was doing all these magical things, but I didn’t know what it meant. So I was like, okay, that’s that’s nice. But when this, when my teacher, my enlightened teacher, who’s a mystic, who gave me this name, during this time of power, I was shaking with so much power downloading into me from my past lives that that were hidden in my consciousness. Now the dam burst open, and all these memories came flooding in, and I could feel that awareness so many of us who are light workers, many of us who are intentionally here, during this time of great awakening, we are powerful souls who have done the work for lifetime after lifetime, and we have chosen to be here because this is a time of power on This Earth where we can help just with our presence and with our work that we are doing. So all that became accessible to me because I was ready at that time to receive that, and since then, my awareness, my life transformed even faster. And a lot of things happened after that, a lot of breakthroughs spiritually.

Sunshine   13:23

I love that you’re sharing that, and I love that you actually pause to ask about that, Graham. But let’s, let’s start like, because that’s the next question. Like, tell us, share with us some of what this journey has looked like for you, right? You know, I can read on your about that it’s been all sorts of various different exploration. But like how, I would love to hear, how did you end up in the desert with your teacher receiving this name, right? Because I don’t think you just woke up one day and decided to walk into the desert with a stranger, right? So how, how did you end up there? And, yeah, please share some of what you’ve experienced since.

Ra Net jer  14:00

Yes, yes. You know, to go back to the beginning of this journey. This actually begins before I was even born. My mother invited a soul to this earth after, you know, she had a miscarriage, she couldn’t, you know, become pregnant, and she was so scared, even if she did, she would lose the child. So she did four years of penance, and kind of like praying to God to have a baby, and she couldn’t conceive. And she said, if I have a baby, I’m not going to be selfish and keep this as my baby. I would like to have a child that I want to give for spirituality, give to God, and then she could conceive. Then I was born, and then she had, you know, dreams and visions. One of them, interestingly, is where a. A holy woman from around the world came and blessed her, saying, May noble son be born to you. And then she found out she was pregnant. So, yeah, I came here very intentionally, so I set up my life in a way that I would have all the support for my awakening and to learn to bring that awakening the light of that awakening to others. So when I was five years old, I remembered my past lives, I saw why I was here, and I was so frustrated that I had to wait to do my work, and I cried to Divine Mother at five years old. I was like, this was not my voice, though. I was like. I was like, I want to do my work now. Give me. Give me my higher purpose. I don’t want to waste like another life, because I remembered also lifetimes when I came here intentionally with with that intent, but forgot that along the way, I got pulled into, you know, the minutia of life And the desires and you know, aversions of being human, and lost the plot, and it saddened me and made me cry. And I said, I’m not gonna let let this happen this lifetime, because this is an important lifetime. But of course, as as I grew up, I forgot about that my teenagers, I rebelled against everything that had anything to do with God. And yeah, I spent all of my time playing computer games and you know, all that. And then life brought me back into one of the books that transformed me. I mean, my story has so many amazing, magical moments, but, and we would be here for days if we go into the details, but basically what happened was life invited me back to remember this through books and through people. It gave me a wake up call when I failed my exams, and I realized through an uncle of mine who was actually helping me with studies that this entire world that I was so attached to was so dreamlike, and my mind was blown again by that realization, and I went back into really seeking spirituality, Autobiography of a Yogi. This book by Paramahamsa Yogananda, which is a bestseller, it has changed lives of millions of people, even Steve Steve Jobs. This was the only book he had on his iPad when he died, and, you know, on his funeral. This was the book that was given out to the visitors as well. So this book made me realize that I had to find a teacher I if I wanted to achieve what I wanted, which was self realization, remembering who I am and realizing it, and it is also known as enlightenment. I needed a teacher. I couldn’t do it by myself, because with the teacher showing you through transmission, this is possible, but it cannot be found in books. It cannot be found in anything that is conceptual or philosophical, because all these things are off the mind. All these things are so limited, but the real awareness that is the secret, can only be transmitted from teachers to teacher to students. So I went on a seven year long quest to find my teacher, and I got disappointed again and again and again, and I said, screw this. I’m just going to follow my heart. And that’s when I found my teacher. When I gave up the search, I found my first enlightened teacher in the Advaita Vedanta lineage. I’ve walked many paths. I’ve explored all sorts of different schools of thoughts, philosophies and. Or spiritual paths, but Advaita Vedanta, which is the path of non duality, is where I’ve found my first breakthrough in awakening, and after a few years of trying to make sense of that, and, you know, integrating that which turned my entire life upside down, actually, the experiences and realizations I had just broke me as a human being, and I couldn’t function. I was an actor and photographer, and I had to give up everything I knew. I had to relearn how to walk and talk. My entire consciousness was so far removed from what was normal that I just couldn’t function as a human being. And I want to,

Sunshine   21:04

I keep getting, I keep getting pushed to go back to so you stopped looking seven years looking for this teacher, stopped looking, and then you found but like, how did you find them if you weren’t looking right? Because people may be listening, they may be in that place of like knowing that they need someone to help guide them. But how? How, if you aren’t looking, so to speak, how did, how did you find them?

Ra Net jer  21:29

So it’s, it’s kind of paradoxical how life works right after looking for seven years, which became a preparation, because when we look for a spiritual teacher, in the beginning, we are looking through our mind. We are in my own case, I was trying to measure people with my own judgments, and trying to kind of see, oh, do I think this person is enlightened? Do I think this person can help me? And in, in the beginning, I was even very kind of judgmental. I can say I was like, only monks can be enlightened. I am so I’m going to be looking for a monk. And in I was in India, of course, so I was gonna, I was looking for somebody who had a Shri in front of their name, which meant they’re like a monk, or, you know, Ananda at the end, which also meant they’re a monk. And because my father was a healer, my father was also famous, and he helped a million people through his healing and my that gave me access to actually meet famous gurus in India, like Sri Ramesh Shankar and and all that. But whenever I met these teachers, it was not something that I was expecting. I didn’t feel that from a deeper place. They could help me. So even when they had Sri, even when they were wearing all the, you know, garb of a monk. And they had all these beautiful stories when they spoke, I was like, Oh, this is not resonating with me, you know. So my soul wasn’t satisfied, even when my mind was satisfied, right? But because of this kind of discontent on this, on this journey of looking for a teacher, I started dropping these judgments and kind of becoming more and more open. And at the same time, life showed me that I could trust my heart and followed life. Life is the real teacher. But at the same time, it’s important to have a physical teacher. It’s invaluable to have a physical teacher. So I was still kind of like, hoping I would find a teacher. But I was like, I have tried for seven years. You know, it should have happened. Didn’t happen. So I’m just going to surrender to life, because life is more intelligent than all our plans and all this. So that is when life took me, as I traveled to a place called Thiruvannamalai. This place is famous in spiritual circles. Those, those who know Ramana Maharshi are Advaita Vedanta. They probably have heard of Tiruvannamalai or Arunachala. There is a mountain there which is known to be holy. And a lot of spiritual teachers visit there. And I had no idea about, you know, other spiritual teachers. Yes, but something called me to that place. And within 24 hours of being there, I was invited to go to, you know, some, something called a satsang, which I had, like, no idea what about what it was, but because a friend invited me, I went, and I just sat there. Did not know what was going to happen, but the teacher walked in there, and I felt something already seeing him walk and and as he spoke, it felt like my heart was speaking to me, but through a person that is in front of me, externalizing, you know, this voice, and I felt this was like something so unexpected, yet, I’ve been looking for this for so long, so I knew I found my teacher, even though I do drop the search, this was my teacher. So I decided then and there, okay, I’m just going to go accept him as my teacher and ask to study with him. And I, because I was looking for so long, I kind of went all in. I surrendered all my doubts, all my fears. A lot of people, what happens why they don’t progress spiritually, even when they work with amazing teachers, is because they have a lot of inhibitions and their own kind of opinions and judgments that they hold dear. They don’t want to let it go. But what I did because of, you know, seven years of disappointment was like I found, finally found my teacher, so I’m going to make the best out of it. So I went 100% and in the next 10 days, I had experience after experience which completely removed me out of anything I knew as normal. These experiences are called samanthi or Satori in spiritual parlance, but it’s an experience of oneness with all that is. It’s an experience of going beyond the self, the ego mind, and being one with the true self. And these experiences were too much for my, my normal mind, to handle. So it kind of like shut down or dysfunction for months, and I didn’t know what to do. I was I was an actor. I was doing multiple movies at the time. I was a lead actor to in these movies. Some of these movies are on YouTube. People can find it, but some of these movies that were in progress, I just couldn’t go back and complete those projects. I was also doing photography projects, and then that’s how I primarily made money. But I just couldn’t edit the pictures and give back to them. I just couldn’t do anything. So I just left everything and just lived in this place where I found this teacher. The teacher went back to Europe, where he came from. He was only there for 10 days, but I was just left there. My life had fallen apart, so I was trying to put everything back together. So it was a very interesting situation that I found myself in,

Sunshine   28:50

You know, Ra, you’d mentioned in your bio, and I talked that, I think this is something we’ve had in common, right? It you step out of that, right? You go to this place of enlightened, like feeling these, like these realizations coming through, right? That heart, that heart shock, really totally open, like feeling you, you’re seen, you’re vulnerable, and then your teacher leaves, and you’re describing like a really uncomfortable place, right? And I think a lot of times when people think of a spiritual path, they think of the end of the path, the enlightenment, the Self Realization, and they miss a lot of the UPS, downs and that go along with it. And you had made a comment on in your bio that you started to see, or you learned that suffering is a blessing, and I would imagine after that 10 days and in the throes of letting everything go, it wasn’t a place of that felt good, that it was probably more of a place of suffering. Can you describe like, How in the world do you go to. From, like, letting everything go, that you’ve built, that you spent time on, effort, your your reputation, even, like, if you’re an actor and you’re walking away, you’re owning, you have a business, and you’re walking you’re talking about, like, even a reputation at that point, right? How do you go through all of that and look at it as a blessing?

Ra Net jer  30:23

It’s looking at it the right way. Because everything is is about perspective. Everything about is about context, for somebody who values, you know, just their physical success in this 3d reality, if they only looked at that. What I did means seem completely illogical and crazy, but because I knew I was here on this earth for spirituality, to realize my own true nature and bring that light to others. I saw that that was the most important thing in my life, and everything else was just a preparation. Acting helped me, you know, in its own way to prepare for this moment. Photography helped me in its own way for that moment. Everything else that had happened before in my life, I saw that it happened just to prepare me for that moment of Samadhi, for that moment of realization. So because of that seeing i, i reframed it, seeing that this, this is why it’s all happening, and somehow life will take care of me. Somehow I just trusted life. This was the key, trust in life, trust in God, trust in my own Higher Self, and with that trust, I knew there was nothing wrong. This was all happening for me. This is what a lot of people miss during spiritual awakening. That spiritual awakening starts happening because life is inviting you to discover who you truly are. But people’s ego, which is the false sense of self, is not comfortable with its with the with the light, with the power, with all that you are that is so huge that the ego cannot comprehend itself in that way. So it thinks it’s limited. It thinks it’s like a little, tiny human being who has to survive through this world. But when the light of who you are starts opening up, it feels it’s too bright. So what it does is creates the suffering as a form of self sabotage, as a form of trying to run away from the light, which is actually the suffering, because you are trying to resist this invitation that God has given you, and in that resistance, you end up creating meaninglessness, depression, you end up isolating yourself, you end up doing all these things. So I realized I was doing that to myself. So after these 10 days, the suffering was trying to figure out life again from this new perspective, and I saw how meaningless some of the things that I held on to earlier so dearly. You know how how meaningless those things were, and the suffering was the catharsis of letting go of those things. And for a lot of people, it’s really hard, because we as humans are story based. Right in our ego is story based, and we tell ourselves like, This is who I am. This is what I like, this. This is how I was, you know, brought up, and these are my values, and these are my friends. These are my people, right? And I me mine, I me mine, I me mine. But when spiritual awakening happens, the entire concept of i is shaken up and transformed, and, you know, completely changed, completely deleted. Sometimes you are you have no idea who you are anymore at that point, because you have. That you’re not any of these little stories you told yourself. And it blows your ego so much that it kind of tries to grasp at whatever it can and tries to, like, make up new stories. So I went through all these ups and downs of like, you know, if I’m not that, maybe I’m something else. You know, because when there’s a vacuum, it tries to be filled with whatever it can. So I made up story, spiritual stories, new stories about myself, which were like sounded much more spiritual than before, which, which a lot of people go through also during spiritual awakening, they think, Oh, now that I’m spiritual, oh, I’m like, higher than others, I’m better than others, and all that. So those stories also, you know, had to, had to come down. So that’s the integration of spiritual, awake, awakening that takes place. But if, if you see the right way it is, you know how life helps you move towards actually realizing who you are.

Sunshine   36:15

I love that because you know my my perspective with that suffering or pain, or anything of that nature is it’s like life doesn’t that’s not what the universe, source or God wants. They’re not like, you know, hey, I would really enjoy it if, if, for every day on the earth you are in pain, and it’s like, not its desire, right? It actually is that, you know, joy, happiness, love, like all of these things. So I look at pain or suffering as an indication that there’s something within my life I haven’t accepted, something in my life that I’m resisting, right? Like, let’s be real. Often it’s a resistance to let go of something that once was, you know, this story, this story. So I That’s how I see it as a blessing. It’s like, you know, that yellow light that we get as we’re driving before it turns red, you know, yeah,

Graham Skidmore  37:08

I Interesting, yeah. So I’ve got, I guess, you know, in addition to, right, I guess you’d say that my experience has been that, you know, I get presented a lot of those things to cement, to help cement in my new identity as well. Right? Is like that, Oh, right. It’s one thing to know it, it’s another thing to live it. It’s another it’s one thing to live it when you’re alone. It’s another thing to live it when you’re challenged, right? Like, right? Like, there’s all these different phases of that, too. And so I found, in addition to, right? Like, you know, the kind of, like, the the chinks in the armor being exposed through these things. It also was that way to, okay, how do I, you know, take this new perspective, and so now is this new perspective that I can bring to the same situation, right? I went from all the things happening to me to the things happening for me, right as well. And I don’t know, you know, I don’t know how that kind of fits in with what you’re talking about too, right? But it took me, like, like you talked about, that was not an easy learning lesson for me, right? Like we thought, you know, we use the term surrender, but I joke around about, like, you know, we say surrender, but believe me, it was, it was more for me. It was a lot more of a beat into submission. First I tried to decide to try to do it my own way.

Ra Net jer  38:22

Yeah, and that’s what happens a lot. You know that we don’t want to give up these these stories about ourselves, and that is why we resist and and they are these stories are just so dear to us. We’ve grown up since childhood being told this is who you are, this is this is your name, this is your this is how we see you. When we kind of internalize, you know what our parents, our friends, all that they say about us, and when you come to a realization that you are infinite in nature, you are limitless in nature, you are the light which is beyond all qualities, beyond all stories, You you you don’t have a beginning. You weren’t born and you’re not gonna die. You don’t have an end. This blows your mind so much that you’re like, it’s the unknown. It’s too much for me. I would rather have something that’s easy to know and comfortable to hold, right? And this, this resistance to your own power, which is unfathomable, creates a suffering. And you know, speaking about being beaten into submission, it is grace. You. That you you are put into depression. You are put into meaninglessness. It is grace that you are put into the dark night of the soul, where you lose a lot of things that you hold dear, and you may suffer through that. It may seem like those are the worst years or days of your life, but that is the purification that is necessary for you to actually hold the light. Otherwise, you have all these filters upon this light that you are that the these filters, kind of, you know, dim and dim and dim this light to such a little, you know, little candle, whereas you are the sun, right? So you have to let your sunshine to and this, this in order to let that light shine. It really is unlearning all these things that you have picked up. Once you have come to this earth, into this body, you learn things which are not true about yourself. So it’s about unlearning and letting go, surrendering is hard for the ego, which has been trained to to kind of like, do kind of hold on,

Sunshine   41:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our ego is like, I’m gonna go with what I know. I’m gonna go where I think is safe. Yeah, I’m gonna go with the stories that are familiar with me, because at least I know how they turn out. Yes, right? You know, you, we’ve, you’ve mentioned the Dark Knight of the soul a couple of times, ra, and I know you’d mentioned, you know, one of the things that all of us have in common is, like, leaving, leaving a job, leaving something that, you know, you mentioned the photography and the actor, but you sounds like even had something else before that was this tech job, right? Like you’re in corporate America, you’re you’re working, I know for me, that was probably the first time that I hit my first, like, really dark was when I had to, I, you know, I stepped out of my first, really, I really, I don’t even know, I don’t even want to use the word toxic, but, like, hurtful, like, it was, it was, it was hurting, right? And I hadn’t realized it. I, you know, corporate experience that I’d been in for almost 12 years, right? And that was hard, that was I’d probably known at that point for two years that I should have been out of there and continued to stay

Sunshine   43:02

How do you make a big shift or a change? You know, we’re talking theoretically right now about suffering and pain and leaving something and letting it go, but like, how do you do that, right, in a practical kind of manner? Yes,

Ra Net jer  43:18

So this actually happened much later. So answering your very first question, which you asked, How did I end up being in a desert during the Summer Solstice with this mystic teacher? Right? It all comes to that. So after this, the some time I spent with my first enlightened teacher, which was a few years I felt there was a readiness for me to learn more. And at this time, I had no job, I had no plan, and I was just floating with the wind wherever it took me. I was just kind of wherever life wanted me to be. I was there. I was meeting just the right people at the just the right time, because I just kind of tuned into life and had no care for anything. Even though this was the most beautiful thing. It was not a powerful expression in this world, because on this earth, there is an element of power, and that is what a lot of people are looking for when they want money, they’re looking to get power when they want position, when they want political power and all that. But it is tainted because it is wanted in a very selfish way. And when you go into corporate, corporate world, when you go into how normal people do. Things, you feel the toxicity of it, as you said, because there is a lot of like, you know, holding on, grasping and keeping for ourselves, and there is a meaninglessness associated to that. You know, having worked there myself, which, which happened? Actually, I learned computer programming. I knew some of it before, but I actually learned computer programming because of my second enlightened teacher who came and found me when I was living in Tiruvannamalai, this, this place of Arunachala, where I left everything and just lived there after a while. And that’s when this teacher walked in to a restaurant where I was sitting in and I was practicing something now I call meditative eating, where even one bite of food is so blissful that you go into deep meditation now. Now I teach this as a guided experience with food, guided meditation with food. But at that time, I was just practicing it myself. It just happened to me, and this teacher saw me and knew that I was his student, and I knew when I met this group that this, this is my teacher, and it was very unexpected for me, what I what more I was going to learn from The next teacher. But what I really learned was balance and how to actually bring the light of this realization into this world in a very powerful and tangible way, in a way that is not exclusive. A lot of people think spirituality is like you go up the mountain and live in a little cave, and you kind of exclude everything that is normal from your life. But actually what this Buddhist mysticism teacher taught me was how to do your job, how to do computer programming, how to do everything that is about living in this world in a very practical, pragmatic, powerful way as a spiritual practice. So I learned martial arts. I learned, you know, how to, you know, interview, how to, you know, do all these things I never imagined I would do. So that’s how I got a job as a software developer. And after years of doing that, even after these previous breakthroughs with enlightenment, what happened was I felt the meaninglessness of that at a time, because life was actually calling me for my higher purpose. So it was important for me to learn that get a job and all that, because I was learning to to be human again, because I had kind of forgotten, after my first awakening, how to human right. So it was important to be human again, to to function in this 3d reality again. But after that has been learned now it was misaligned, because now finally, the time had come for me to follow my higher purpose and be a spiritual teacher and pour my heart and soul into it, go full time into it. I was doing that for many years, part time. And when you’re doing something part time, you’re like, you know, you’re giving a little bit of energy to it. And I was, you know, doing my job and all that. And it was like, Okay, I’m doing my job to support my spiritual practice, my path and to do that. But it sometimes life says you gotta do your higher purpose now completely. And I was, a part of me which was fearful about, you know, money and this and that, because in USA, you cannot be like in India. You just kind of, you know, you sit next to a temple and somebody gives you food. It doesn’t work that way in USA. So, yeah, so I had to trust life again fully and surrender. And when I did that, and when I went full time into being a spiritual teacher, that is how it was my next stage. That is how. How I could deepen my awakening, my enlightenment, even more so as a software developer, it was it just became more and more apparent that what I was doing like sitting there in front of my computer most of the day and, you know, just coding and all that, looking for that little semicolon that is breaking the entire program. That was not for me anymore, but it was time for me to help other awakening souls, give them the right guidance, give them the support that I could have really used when nothing in my life worked, when I was awakening, and I was so confused, because there was nobody to tell me, Hey, this is all right. This is how it happens, these ups and downs, they are normal. Spiritual Awakening is not just unicorns and rainbows all the time. So So I felt that calling that also all these ups and downs, these dark matter of the soul, this depression that I went through earlier, was actually preparation for me to be a spiritual teacher who can now relate to what others are going through. There are millions of people who are going through this meaninglessness that they are feeling, but actually it’s a call to awaken they don’t know yet. So my message now is to really reach those awakening souls, to tell them that this is actually happening for them, to help them make the best start of that invitation.

Graham Skidmore  51:45

So I’d love to jump in real quick here, if I could, because when you talk about being able to reach people, you talked about an important topic that I think is really, really, I don’t know, it lacks a proper attention in the spiritual community, the status quo community, just conversations in general, which is this perception of what it means to be in a spiritual path, or to be spiritual, right? And like, like you, right? And like you said, sunshine, there’s just, there is a certain common sense aspect that you could that you could say to yourself, I’m like, wait a second here. There’s no way that me that being spiritual and that somehow me becoming enlightened means that I now enjoy going to the bathroom in the woods and using leaves instead of Charmin like this is just illogical to me, and that there’s no way that that’s called evolution. You know what I mean? Like I get that there’s and so I think that there is no doubt that there is a there is a place for those that want to get back to Earth and live that type of way, right? And but then there’s an other thing that you talked about, which is, look, how do I maintain this spiritualness without necessarily giving up everything around me, right? And I think that that’s the segment, and people misunderstanding that. That’s huge. And so if you wouldn’t mind, kind of backing up the bus a little bit to kind of touch on, how did you learn how to kind of incorporate both of those things? And then, what do you think people are missing? Because I think this is a great point for you to distinguish your perspective, which I think is anyone listening. I’m going to point it out right now pay attention, because this isn’t talked about enough and trying to do spiritual practices, or any practices that aren’t realistic to keep up right, meaning that they’re always going against the current, you know, makes it tough. And what you’re talking about is learning how to go with the current. So Simon, I’m going to shut up now and allow you to jump in and say, How did you start to incorporate those and what was that experience like and how would you reach out to others to say, hey, you feel like this. That’s what I’m talking about. Reach out to me.

Ra Net jer  53:49

Thank you so much for parting this out, because this is, as you said, it’s not talked about enough. There is a very kind of judgmental divide in our mind, in what is spiritual, what is not spiritual, right? It’s there’s kind of a division, there’s a duality, and because it’s also because, for all these 1000s of years before spirituality was in the mountains, was in the forest. Was in, you know, just leaving everything and going, this is what we heard in all these stories, right? Or, if somebody becomes spiritual, they kind of leave society and just kind of find their own way in solitude. But now, most people live in cities. Most people live in concrete jungles, and there is so much technology that is part of our life. You know, you cannot imagine being separate from technology in any way, even from your phone, right? It, and because our society has shifted in this way, we cannot just hold on to that old idea of how spirituality is or was. And there is always an evolution of technology and spirituality together through these ages of how. You know, spirituality spreads in into the masses. There are ages in which spirituality is in little pockets. And there are ages when spirituality is all around so now we are at an age where spirituality is accessible even more in the cities, even more in you know, society, even more in technology, because this, this is the next evolution of it’s kind of like democratization of spirituality in a way you could Say it’s accessible to everyone. So what I teach is that integration, when when I’m speaking with my students, my mentees, a lot of the times, the advice that I give is very anti New Age, because in the new age, there’s a lot of people who are like, you know, you just kind of like, sit there and meditate, you smoke some weed, and you have some mushrooms, and you go on this trip, and you, you are kind of lost in the astral planes. And you’re, you’re kind of doing light language, and you’re all in all these other stars. But more important than any of that is to be grounded, to be real, to be here on Earth, to actually bring that light you may have discovered in these pure states of mind or meditation, but also bring that light into whatever you do every day, into your job, into your finances, into things which you may not think as spiritual at all, sometimes cleaning your closet and arranging your house in a way to receive the light is more important than you know, doing your Astral traveling. There needs to be balance. A lot of people just go so imbalanced towards these airy fairy things that their life is no longer supportive of the path anymore. So my emphasis is really on having flow of this light, but also having the structures that support this flow the masculine and the feminine coming into their divine aspects and balancing each other. That’s very important in this world, which has for so long become imbalanced towards the masculine.

Sunshine   58:43

No, I love that you touch on on the whole topic here, because I do, I do feel a lot of what you’re talking about in this kind of the new aged focus. And don’t get me wrong, I’m a psychic. I have very strong like I’ve been astral traveling since I was a child, the thing that I’ve had to practice in my adult life, in my spirituality, is the embodiment, right? It is the connection between the mind, the body and the spirit, right, you know? And it’s, I think about this, and, you know, Graham, I don’t know that we’ve talked specifically about this. But you know, ra, I left my corporate job to focus on this work back at the end of April. And I have talked with my guys many times about studies that I should be doing, or like research, or more of this, like mind. And you want to know where they told me to go, the garden, the garden, right? Go to the garden. Go to the land. Plant things. Watch them grow. Be surprised, be amazed, right? It’s not, it’s none of the studies, it’s none of the mental stuff. And even from like, I finished nine books in the course of the last I think. Two months, not a single one has been on a spiritual topic. They’re all fiction, right, every single one of them. Because, like, it’s not about, you know, when we step into these spiritual paths, when we go for this awakening, I love that you’re touching on this because I think so many think that the Enlightenment is that picture of, you know, sitting cross legged in a state of meditation, right when, the more and more i i talk to people that have reached these paths, it’s so far from that. It’s what are they doing in their community? How are they giving back? How are they being of service? How are they treating their lands? How like it’s that piece that truly makes us human?

Ra Net jer  1:00:48

Yes, yes, yeah. We We are spirit and and, you know, we are the light, and what we are doing here on this earth is, as you said, embodiment of that. So if we forget that part, and we are only focusing on these beautiful, bright dimensions, kind of creating a separation in our mind from this to that, not bridging, you know, those dimensions, we are not doing our work that we are here to do, which is kind of bring that light into every aspect of this life. It’s not by accident that you’re here.

Graham Skidmore  1:01:34

Yeah, and you also, you brought up another really, you know, important point about the subtleties of how you engineer yourself away from the path, I think, was that you weren’t right. And so, you know, it’s funny is that, you know, I live in the same house that I did my corporate life and all those other things, and I literally engineered, I engineered my life to be to play the game, right? Essentially, where all I had to do was worry about going to work and going out and playing, whether that be golf, because you take your pick, because I had somebody to do the lawn, to do the cleaning, do all of the other like, you know, helping all these other places and and so your point, what that left me and was like so far into that, you know, and I’m, and I don’t want to say toxic, but I’m just going to call It unproductive, to my to my authentic and genuine self, masculine energy, right, where I went into right? That only after all of those like, what I my accommodations were taken from me, or, you know, that I had to now, you know, and I opened up those things, right? So for the first time I see, the first time I’m talking, I don’t know, 25 years between it took that I didn’t do laundry, clean the house, anything like that, right? Because I didn’t enjoy it. And now, you know, now I respect and understand the importance of doing it, for tapping into all of those things that you just talked about right now, when I feel kind of blocked at times, or if I’m trying to tap into my creative energy, right? Like I put on the headphones, I turn the music, I do some laundry, right, or I’ll do some cleaning, right? And those are the times, and I didn’t, and right? And so it was like, and I’m laughing at myself where I want to get just because this whole time, right? I’m patting myself. I’m on the back. I’m the genius. I figured it out. I know how to play the game. Look at me. I don’t have a care in the world. Oh yeah, by the way, by the time I got done playing the game, checking all the boxes, as all can be, right? Only then, once I integrated all this other stuff, did things change? And so the subtleties of not even realizing how we if we’re not careful, how we will engineer ourselves away from that stuff, and how and all those things you talked about are just little ways to be aware and like sunshine with the nature, right? Because, you know, I spend two to three hours every morning sitting, even though I’m sitting in tradition. I live in a traditional neighborhood, you know, I found a way to bring my squirrels and birds and nature to me and learn, you know, and the amount that I learned through them every and every day is just is fascinating to me and in awe, right? And stuff. So there’s all those ways to be spiritual without having to go so far to the other direction anyway. So it was, you’re making me, I’m kind of, you’re making me laugh at the geniusness of which, of what I thought it was. You know, at certain points in my past life, Sunshine was so plenty of it. So she knows, yeah,

Sunshine   1:04:18

Graham, I’m determined. Next year I’m gonna have to, I’m determined to. I’m fascinated. My fascination right now is, I’m a I’ve got caterpillars that I’m the grandmother of, and so I’m gonna get you some some dill and some parsley and everything next year, Graham for you to grow, because it is the most fascinating when you come over. I’m hoping that they’re still on this plant. These plants, there are like 12 of them, and some of these guys are as, like, big as my finger right now. They’re amazing to watch. Yeah, oh, they’re so incredible. They bring me so much joy. I like, run out check on them every day. But they do devour these plants. Oh, my God, they devour them. I don’t know how they eat so much. Yeah. Up these little caterpillars. I guess they do grow pretty big. Um, you know, Ron, you’d mentioned too, just because I do think outside of the topics that we’re talking about, you had another one that you’d mentioned that you wanted to bring up, and I think, I think that’s important, because what we’re talking about and where some of this conversation has been, you know, we’ve been talking about the pain, the suffering, the darkness, the messiness, right? How uncomfortable it can be. And so one of the things that you’d mentioned, that you might want to talk about was that safe space, right? Like, let’s be real. You know, if we were a child in this world, you know, we’re like one, and we just learned how to walk. Guess what? Our parents have bumpers up. They’ve they’ve put the plugs in the little plastic plugs in the electrical outlets. They put the locks on the doors. They’ve moved they’ve created a safe space for us to learn how to walk and grow and all of that kind of stuff as adults, yeah, you know, like we they don’t just don’t exist. Our parents aren’t living with us anymore. To put the bumpers up and the plastic and the electrical. So, how in the world, right do we, and if we’re talking about it, on our perspective, Ra, like, as as spiritual leaders, how do we create that safe space and and why is it so important for us to be that are called to this work, to do that? Like, why is this such an important thing?

Ra Net jer  1:06:23

The first thing to know is that there is no honor in doing this alone, by yourself, and stumbling and falling in the dark and grasping for a solution as as you DIY it right. There’s no need to DIY this, because I this is the trend I’ve seen, especially in the West. One more thing about the West is there is such an individualism in people that they don’t want to get down from their high horse and admit that there’s something wrong, even when their entire life is kind of falling apart, especially because of spiritual awakening, when it changes things so core to you and you are misaligned with your entire life, and it has to change. And you on top of that, you have to face your own self sabotage. You have to face your own internal enemy and people outside of you don’t know what’s going on with you, cannot understand, misjudge you, even you know, kind of see you as somebody who’s going crazy, right? And and with all this going on, there’s so much danger of people getting stuck here for decades, which I’ve seen it. It kind of saddens me so much, people with so much amazing potential for years and years, stuck in darkness, even though they have come here to bring the light and seeing this again and again, after going through this myself, even in India, being the son of a guru, having access to many different spiritual teachers. Myself going through it, I saw that it’s so, so important to create the safe space, and now more than ever, because there are millions of people waking up. And I was looking into what worked for me. Later, I was stuck for a long time, but then things started working for me, and I had breakthrough after breakthrough. There was balance, there was abundance, there was everything that I was looking for to bring this light in a very real way. That was my job, to follow my higher purpose. What worked. And then I realized this has been done for 1000s of years, and there is a model that I can follow which is very real. So that’s what I based this safe space that I I have created. First of all, it is an accessible, enlightened mentorship, being able to speak to somebody who knows what is happening, who has done that before, who knows the ins and outs of the process, just like if you’re starting a startup and you have a startup mentor who has founded their own startup and had an exit, because we are in technology, we can speak about it in a very kind of comparable way. And, oh. This person has, you know, created a startup, and is a serial entrepreneur, and has done the job, and now he knows what to do, so he can, you know, you know, have Y Combinator, which is like, you know, a startup school, and mentorship in a similar way, somebody who has gone through this can see what’s happening with you. It’s even deeper here spiritually, because when I work with my mentees, I’m not seeing this as another person. I’m seeing this my own spirit trying to free itself in another form. And I work with people in a deeply, energetic way, and one of the things in accessible, enlightened mentorship is the element of transmission. Because a lot of people, we have spoken about stories, right? We’ve spoken about how we are stuck, and this is because people are only using their heads. People are stuck in their headquarters, because this is what life designed. You know, in this societal way is all about. You think about your life and you follow your thoughts and you just lead your life with your head

Graham Skidmore  1:11:24

the server. They’re stuck in the server room. They gotta tap into all their information that’s existing out there in the cloud, just their higher self, right? Like, that’s how it’s anyway, that’s my that’s my attempt to use some tech lingo and bridge, yes,

Ra Net jer  1:11:38

Yes. But what, what is called for you is to go beyond that and come to a space where you can follow your heart. And when the entire society is following its head, it’s hard to find your footing. So if you have a community of people who are doing this together, who are walking this path together that really helps. So one of the amazing things that I see happen when people into come into my community is they feel seen, they feel heard, they feel normal. Because when they didn’t have a space where they could talk about a spiritual experience they had, and, you know, the and and not how to kind of like, filter it, dump it down, and kind of like, hold the their light back in a way that it’s, oh, this is probably too weird to speak about. But in our community, people share their most amazing experiences, most bright experiences. And it may sound weird to others to hear somebody say, Oh, I was transported to this thing, and this happened, and I met this, you know, beautiful being, and they did this, and all this symbolism and magic and all that they can talk about. And people are like, Yeah, I felt that too. Instead of like, Oh, what are you talking about, right? So this creates a safe space where you can just be as you are, where you can shine your light, you become more and more comfortable with your own light, because you see that being reflected from others back to you. And you learn to overcome your jealousy, your envy, which is something very selfish that is practiced in the normal world. And it’s so you know, normal to be envious. It’s so normal to push others down and oh, I’m you know better than others. But here you become a part of a community which is growing together, which is supporting each other, which wants you to do better in a very genuine way. And it, it, this is what really works in integration. This is, and this is an online community, right? You know, the the reason I made an online community, we do like, whenever I have retreats and things like, we have physical spaces that we can meet, but it’s online, because, you know, every week, you get to practice this multiple times a week, and this becomes such a part of your life where you learn to live your normal life and try to bring in these elements into your life, and you create this safe space in your life too. First, you find that safe space in this kind of container where you know there’s all this support. And then you you bring it into all areas of your life that you can now. All actually be a light worker, really,

Sunshine   1:15:06

Right? I think that’s a beautiful reason as to like us that are kind of leading this work. You know, what? About like your your students, or, you know, the folks that you’re mentoring, or anybody that might be interested, like, if they’re going to go out there and they’re going to try to identify, right? You know, they finally are ready to admit that they don’t want to do this alone. Don’t need to do this alone. What do they look for in a community? I mean, how do they know, right? How do they know? How can they recognize that, you know, a community has created a space that’s going to allow that to happen, allow them to flourish.

Ra Net jer  1:15:45

First of all, is harmlessness. This is the element that is most important. A lot of communities out there, I’ve been part of so many, and when there is no kind of like absolute alignment with the light, there are elements of the ego self that come into any community. There is politics, there is power struggles and all these things. So my emphasis, as I created this safe space is really about harmlessness, supportiveness of each other, and the real intention that goes beyond the ego and and being not just supportive of each other, but to be a standard to others by being selfless. Selflessness is the most important thing, because our false self, which we think is who we are, which tries to run our our life through if we don’t examine it, that is what subtly gets into all the things we do, and tries to kind of makes it, make it makes it toxic, makes it all about ourself, right? But to be able to be in a community where you see that selflessness, you see a real light. You You feel the energy. You feel the resonance with your heart and you, and even just kind of like seeing how you develop yourself being there for for example, somebody who came in just six weeks ago in our community was sharing what what happened to her? The the amount of transformation being there coming coming to these weekly sessions where there is an engagement with the light. The secret to transformation is to engage with the light on a regular basis, because there is so much darkness all around if you keep engaging with just that, you don’t move forward on on your pathway to the light. So engage with the light as much as you can. And, you know, find ways to do that, like on a regular basis, make it part of your work, like for you, for those of us here, who are, you know, teachers, healers, light workers, it’s more easy, but for somebody who has a job, who has to balance their family, who has to balance all these other things, the way I provide it is, I provide a lot of different tools. I provide a lot of different ways that they can kind of make it a part of their everyday thing like even something like eating that you do every day can become your practice. Of course, I help them establish an meditation practice and mindfulness that’s a part of it. But it’s not about separating your spiritual life from your normal life, but bringing your spirituality into your life. And you don’t have to change your lifestyle. You don’t have to change you know, and and be weird about it.

Sunshine   1:19:42

I think there’s, you know, just because we are getting close, but I just want to highlight there’s, like, two things that I think you said that was really a big deal right there. And then the one was, like, the the lack of harm like that, the you know, in these spaces that you’re actually, you know, you aren’t seeing. Any type of practices that are going to lean towards any type of harm. And harm is both, you know, mind, body and spirit, you know, I always incorporate, but I think the other thing that I just heard you say is they’re not trying to change you right? They’re not trying to tell you that it’s one way that there’s, you know, like you have to conform, you know. And I think when we move into those, this is where I think people get nervous about community, is there’s another C word that goes along with it, right? And, and that’s the cult, you know. And this is typically, you know, a big indication of that is when they are asking you to change for them, right? And so I just want to pause and, you know, highlight that one that you know you called it out. Like, no, like, if somebody is in a safe space, a safe container, they are going to be there to nurture you for who you are and what your beliefs are. And you know, what your needs are, not the opposite of what they need. Yes,

Ra Net jer  1:21:00

Yes, you are here as you are by design, right? God wanted you to express the light in this way that you are expressing right now you are sunshine in this beautiful, unique expression of God, and I have no right to say it’s wrong. Actually, it’s my job to appreciate your expression, to bring that out, rather than to change it. The only thing I ask people to change is see how you’re holding yourself back. 

Sunshine   1:21:43

Change your limiting beliefs and change your perspective.

Ra Net jer  1:21:46

Yeah

Sunshine   1:21:48

I love that so much. We could continue on because Ra, you are

Ra Net jer  1:21:54

a by the way, I

Graham Skidmore  1:21:55

Will just kind of add because you again touched on something else that I think is really, really important for those that are venturing in and or just trying to live a safe spiritual life is, let’s be honest, there is a lot of marginalization of people that occurs inside the spiritual community, where the teachers want to be the, I’m just going to call them Gods on Earth, where they are the keepers of knowledge. They are the genius. They are the everything right. And that is a I’m not saying, like, there’s a lot to learn from anybody and everything. But like you said, if some the true path, eventually you’ll recognize there. It doesn’t involve anybody trying to get you to be anything, but you right, and that. And I really appreciated, and I just really think that that like, I think that says a lot about you and what you’re offering right to be able to be honest about that, to be able to be open about that, and to truly make a point to provide that safe space while acknowledging, Hey, man, that stuff is out there. Right? Part being humans is for having emotions and things, right, like that. And so anyway, I just thought that there was such a very refreshing honesty about that approach that I think is, you know, is missing out there, and that prevents and if more people were that way, I think it would be a lot easier for a lot of people to find those middle grounds into adoption and being able to step into it. So there’s just a lot of great things you’ve talked about, that you’ve represented, that you’re talking about embodying, and you and your work, and so I hope that those that are listening are recognizing those subtle, but really to me, important differences. So I thank you for, you know, for doing that.

Ra Net jer  1:23:33

Yeah, I agree. I wholeheartedly.

Sunshine   1:23:35

You know, it’s the these are things that for me, personally, I’ve come along in my path that learned to look for in a spiritual mentor myself, right? You know, these are things that are really important to me, so I love that you called them out, and I love that you highlighted them, yeah, and thank you for pausing on that, Graham.

Ra Net jer  1:23:53

Yeah, there’s this huge shift that is happening where spirituality, earlier, for 1000s of years was such a kind. It’s all about secrets. It was all about, oh, those who are worthy will know. And like when I was initiated into the Gayatri mantra, the priest had to cover his face and so that his lips would not be seen even pronouncing the mantra, and he would whisper it into my ear. That was how secret it was, the Gayatri mantra, which is now available on the internet with binaural beats and whatnot and all these frequencies, right? But because of this new openness and accessibility, this is what spirit wants it to be. And who are we to hold it back and keep it like to ourselves? Who are we to say, I am special because I have this realization or I know this. It’s, it’s the truth is that you. Have the same and my job is just to point you back, to say you are the light and I am shining bright so that you can see this is possible for you too. Not to show that I’m special in some way, that’s not my intention. Just to also say that this is possible for you.

Sunshine   1:25:22

I love that. Ra, you know, you’ve been an absolute pleasure today, and I’m certain that there are folks that are going to be listening that are curious, where can they find you? And you’ve talked a bit about your community, but if they’re out looking for you, where can they find you? And why? You know, why should they reach out to you? Why do you want them to come reach out to you.

Ra Net jer  1:25:43

Yeah, the reason that you are listening, you know, and we are nearly at the end of the episode here, the reason that you have stayed on here is because something in your heart resonated, and somehow life has led you to this moment, to be here. And it’s not by accident. It’s because something in you is awakening as and is looking for that support and is yearning for the truth of discovering its own true nature, and I’m only here as a spokesperson, a guide of you know what, what was provided to me when I was looking for this through many different ways. I’m paying forward, and I’m trying to help those who are in my position, those who were in my position, no, no, no, those who are in the position that I was in many years ago when I was looking for this so and and if that resonates with you, Yeah, you can. You can come to my website, awakenwithra.com WWW dot awaken with ra.com and if you come there, I have events every now and then happening. You can download my app. I have many different master classes, guided meditations, interviews, all this good stuff where you can really get clarity, even just through that you don’t even have to sign up for my program or anything. I want to give you everything you need to really understand what’s happening with you as your awakening and so that you can kind of see where this is going, what is possible for you, how amazing your light is, and how to bring that out. And you know if, if you decide you want this kind of guidance and safe space, of course, I’m happy to provide that for you if you’re ready. So when somebody comes to me, I do a spiritual assessment for them. First, I don’t let anybody into the program, because I’m protective of my safe space, of my community, right? But you can download my app from my website, and you know, you can listen. I have a lot of content for you, which already gives you a taste of what is possible for you,

Sunshine   1:28:31

It’s amazing. I definitely recommend folks that are listening. If you’re called as Ra said, you know, if it resonated, there’s a reason. You’re still here and you’re still listening. So definitely reach out, find him online. Thank you so much. It’s been a pleasure having you on the show here today. Anything before we wrap here? Graham, how I normally do any last and final

Graham Skidmore  1:28:53

No, no, no. I think that. You know what? I think it was a great way to wrap up the season, right, like different perspectives about some really key foundational things that are going to be important for this next chapter of life here on Earth. And

Ra Net jer  1:29:10

I want to thank you both so much for oh, it was so lovely how both of you brought different questions, different perspectives reflected on different things that resonated with you. I thoroughly enjoyed this experience so much, so I want to thank you both.

Sunshine   1:29:25

Oh. Our pleasure Absolutely. We will wrap it up, as we do every single show, and encourage each and every one of you out there to find your path, follow your path, into your own deepest spirituality until next time, which will be next season, my dear friends. Much love from all of us to you. Bye.

👉𝐶ℎ𝑒𝑐𝑘 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑤𝑒𝑏𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑆𝑢𝑛𝑠ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑒 𝑔𝑢𝑖𝑑𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦!

🤙🏻𝐒𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐝𝐮𝐥𝐞 𝐚 𝐅𝐑𝐄𝐄 𝐒𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝐂𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐂𝐚𝐥𝐥

🧡𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 

👍𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐅𝐚𝐜𝐞𝐛𝐨𝐨𝐤 𝐏𝐚𝐠𝐞 

📷 𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐈𝐧𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦

💜𝐈𝐥𝐥𝐮𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐞

👍 𝐈𝐥𝐥𝐮𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐅𝐚𝐜𝐞𝐛𝐨𝐨𝐤 𝐏𝐚𝐠𝐞

📷 𝐈𝐥𝐥𝐮𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐈𝐧𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦

👍𝐒𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝐖𝐢𝐭𝐜𝐡’𝐬 𝐁𝐚𝐳𝐚𝐚𝐚𝐫 𝐅𝐚𝐜𝐞𝐛𝐨𝐨𝐤 𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐩

🚨𝐃𝐨𝐧’𝐭 𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐬 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐬𝐞 𝐚𝐝𝐝𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐨𝐮𝐫𝐜𝐞𝐬:

📲𝐈𝐥𝐥𝐮𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐞: 𝐒𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝐖𝐢𝐭𝐜𝐡 𝐀𝐩𝐩: 𝐴𝑉𝐴𝐼𝐿𝐴𝐵𝐿𝐸 𝐼𝑁 𝑇𝐻𝐸 𝐴𝑃𝑃 𝑆𝑇𝑂𝑅𝐸 𝐴𝑁𝐷 𝑃𝐿𝐴𝑌 𝑆𝑇𝑂𝑅𝐸 𝑇𝑂 𝐷𝑂𝑊𝑁𝐿𝑂𝐴𝐷

🔮𝐑𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲 𝐏𝐬𝐲𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐜 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠:

🔮𝐏𝐚𝐬𝐭 𝐋𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐒𝐨𝐮𝐥 𝐇𝐞𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐀𝐝𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧: 

🧑‍🎨𝐀𝐝𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐃𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐧 𝐏𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠